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Muertos had a thread on UFOs:

http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/lets-talk-about-ufos So I thought why not talk about Ancient Astronauts? It's definitely a topic that should be covered on this site, as it's been rising in popular for a long time. One thing I noticed is how many of them blatantly lie, they're much like the pseudo-scholars we've seen in recent years promoting inaccurate comparative religion.

In particular there is one guy that really stands out. His name is Giorgio A. Tsoukalos and he is like Peter Joseph and Michael Tsarion combined, but with Jeff Rense's sense of hair style. Every episode of "Ancient Aliens" on the US TV channel "History Channel" his hair gets crazier and crazier, looking more and more like Bozo the Clown's.

One thing he said once really struck me. He was talking about how the Ancient Egyptians must have had light bulbs. He claimed that he and his friends were investigating the King's chamber in Egypt and in order to test whether or not torches would have worked, he tried to spark his lighter. The lighter didn't work because, according to him, there wasn't enough oxygen. This proves, of course, that torches couldn't have been used, and it must have been some kind of electrical light of sorts. What he failed to explain was, how if there wasn't enough oxygen for his lighter, how he and his friends managed to keep from suffocating.

There are plenty of other people to talk about as well. In this thread I'd like to discuss both them and their theories, perhaps we can build a general topic article from it.

We could start with each claim we can find, such as the lighter thing. Nazca Lines, Stone Henge, pyramids, etc.

I can quite imagine we got our hover cars and free energy devices, but then when they broke, being the savages we are, we threw them into a landfill site and forgot about them..

I see the same thing happening today with modern tech that few people can fix even the most simplist of problems. (My fav is the on/off switch breaking on things, and they throw it out!)

eric von daniken is the father of this stuff.

i read a few of his books, i have one or two lying about here somewhere

Its highly possible that aliens do know about Earth and possibly even the human race after all the could have evolved on their home planet millions possibly billions of years ago.Our planet whent through five(going on six) mass extinction events before we evolved and they possibly didnt have 1000 years of scientific development stunted by religion(or something similar) and probably developed an RBE more quickly than us.As for abductions etc. I dont believe that has happened since all they need to do is read medical textbooks without any anal probing or other experiments that abductees and CT'rs like to harp on about.

Edit:Like Carl Sagan I find UFO's and the pseudoscience involved quite interesting compared to other forms of conspiracy theories due to the whole questions that it raises ie are we alone etc -
some food for thought : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nroo-i8t8vg /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL4cFjmnQT8&feature=related

Alien 1: Hey, lets road trip!
Alien 2: Where to?
Alien 1: Oh, I don't know. Let's go to Earth. I wonder what its like!
Alien 2: OH NO! Fuck no! That's the East St. Louis of space. I don't want to breathe their air, its too poor and filthy.

Disclaimer: I don't think East St. Louis is too poor or dirty- I think its too scary.

East St. Louis? Hell, I don't even go there, ever.

>> i read a few of his books, i have one or two lying about here somewhere

The keyword being "lying"

I read Chariots of the Gods a very long time ago and the leaps of faith were just too much for me to take seriously.

I only got interesteded in the Ancient Aliens Documentary on the History Channel because I was considering writing a scinece FICTION novel/video game plot that went around the same vein.However Giorgio A. Tsoukalos was way too "out there" for me(and im not just talking about his hair and fake tan).I mean he utilises the same sort of distorted logic as Acharya's Sun=Son as in every religion has sky gods therefore they were really space aliens!!! talk about being totally fracked up I ended up laughing through the entire thing.

I agree Muertos, I've always thought that ancient astronauts theories are just a way to easily explain away difficult questions. There are some mysteries as to how ancient people built or did things, but that just means we haven't figured it out yet, it doesn't mean it was impossible for them to do so.

I also find it offensive as a human being, as if we weren't clever enough or innovative enough to figure out how to move a 20 ton stone with no wheels.

Aaron, tell her that you're a student of sexual techniques taught to the ancient Egyptians by super-beings from Zeta Reticuli. She'll probably be curious enough to let you bone her.

I agree and also say you think they may have communicated sexually, say you had one appear to you in a dream and told you how it could be done and if you could practise the method on her, for scientific purposes of course.

@ Muertos: lol, judging from what else I've learned about her, that might work.