Skeptic Project

OK So I sat and put myself through this entire series that aired on the History Channel, and it would take a while to debunk every single speculation in it as there is almost one every minute or so within an entire 7.5 hours of footage.
I watched it all on this guys channel on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/uforeport2009#p/c/3D099E990BAEF358</p>

So what I thought I would do was discuss a few key issues that bother me about the idea.

Let me list some of the things these people give aliens credit for in our history first:

Building and architectural design and skills
Technology for tools and design
Language and education
Agriculture
Genetic manipulation of the species
The stories in religious doctrines are supposed misinterpretations of alien contact

That’s a fair amount of credit we are giving away to an alien race for pretty much every advancement in our species evolution process. In fact what that list does is hand over the ingenuity of our species to an external species we have yet to prove exists. Literally by believing this theory we are calling ourselves dumb critters that were genetically modified and educated out of the dirt by an advanced society who did not want to be seen by us or wish to remain around to interact.

There are a few problems I have here and I will attempt to list reasons why and try and drop a few evidences why I think they are wrong.

OK lets first talk about religious doctrines and language.

The cultures that are attributed with the stories the Alien Astronaut Believers [AAB for now] use as evidence are varying and from all around the globe. They attempt to justify this with an alien species that travels around the globe and teaches everyone the same things at the same time, which in their eyes explains why everyone came up with the same concepts.
Here in lies the first problem, all of the cultures that they use as evidence sprang up around the world at different times and all of them did not have the same societal structures, architecture or beliefs. So essentially what they are doing is cherry picking similarities in cultures around the world that hold their story together.
They choose things like how the cultures origin stories talk about gods from the sky, also they talk about how some of them utilise monolithic building techniques and pyramid building, as well as have keen interest in cosmological events.
Now the main problem I have with this is the following:
Timelines for all these cultures springing up is varying like so:

South American cultures.

http://chaos1.hypermart.net/fullsize/ancivfs.gif<br /> The oldest known South American culture which might I add is a distinct culture that is linked with Native American Indians and their mythologies are the Olmec which date back to 1500 BC. From then we move into Toltec’s, zapotecs, Incas, mixtecs, Aztecs and Mayans all of which were inter related cultures on the same land mass whose interactions or syncretic behaviour is easily explainable as they all existed in the same land mass. People will inevitably travel and move around the land mass passing information about, trade and language already existed [potentially to 7000 years ago circa 5000 BC] as did religious ideology. This gives a time frame for civilisations inception with language around 5000+ BC in this area. Interestingly the later Inca did not have a writing system, while they used pictographs there is not a single evidenced writing system in place during this era

African and European

Egypt:
http://chaos1.hypermart.net/fullsize/artancfs.gif<br /> We start around 3000BC with known cultural identifiers in the Egyptian era which coincides with Mesopotamian society leading through to the Mycenaean, Minoan through to Greek, Assyrian and early Christian. The earliest given civilisation is that of the Sumerians whose cultures dates back to circa 3200 BC as does the Egyptian, these cultures in pre dynastic eras were only small settlements and cities were only beginning to spring up so we are not talking a whole civilisation in this era only pockets of them. The Mesopotamians, Assyrians, Sumerians, Egyptians & Carpathians are possibly the oldest in the Middle Eastern and African areas all dating to around 5500+ BC. We also have the Chinese dating back to the Huangbdi and Longshan cultures around 3500+ BC.

Now what is strange is that in these cultures all over the world they all come and go, some with writing, some not with writing. Sometimes earlier cultures with writing, but later cultures without writing. Each of them has its own unique language, and also most of them their own unique cultural identifiers, in that there is syncretism within certain things like building techniques societal structure and hierarchy. But they all do not have the same characteristics.

Now here is where I get down to my point, these cultures had time to travel around the globe in the time frame given. The difference of a few hundred years or thousand years is easily enough time for culture to spread around the globe, so the idea it would require technology and an external alien force to spread it around the globe is nonsense. If the same alien race was responsible for teaching language and education why so many different languages? Why such a difference in timeframes between societies springing up around the globe? Why some with writing and some without? Why some with pictographs/hieroglyphs and some with cuneiform writing?
Would it not make sense if an alien race had interacted with all these societies then there would be a lot more similarities in everyone’s language worldwide as well as there being a very similar writing system that sprung up everywhere at the same time ?

It seems to me the differences in the cultures far outweigh the similarities in them leading me to believe that these cultures did not have the same teachers from another world, rather they were learning from other societies globally through the means of trade, travel and interaction through stories and visiting. I would be much more inclined to believe that these cultures were becoming aware of each others existence and were learning skills from each other over long time frames, which would explain why the timelines of societies springing up is quite varied globally.

This also leads me onto another point I have with alien interaction.
How long would it take for an alien race to learn how to talk to us? How long would it take to teach us? How long would it take to genetically modify us? These are not just overnight matters. These kinds of things would require timelines of generations of human beings to achieve. This would require the aliens to actually have a settlement here on Earth to co exist alongside us to be effective, or at least spend an equivalent amount of time here on earth to achieve the goal. This would actually mean that circa 5000+ BC when societies were springing up these aliens were here on Earth, this is post ice age which would be fairly recent historically speaking. So these aliens would have to spend a good amount of years hanging about teaching and showing techniques like AAB state. Therefore one would believe that there would be actual evidence of their existence here, their living quarters, their society’s paraphernalia, also there would need to be a lot of them to teach an entire culture in such a short time globally and actually have an impact. Because if they were doing it one person at a time it would take centuries to achieve education on just a few people. Look at universities lecturers require halls filled with people willing to attend and it requires years of focused directive training to get to any semblance of knowledge. This would be the kind of situation they would have us believe was going on, because it literally would have needed to be this way if their stories are true. But again there are no indicators to show that any of this ever occurred, therefore the stories that aliens taught human beings seems completely unlikely

Now while there are a few points that are curious and do make you wonder without evidence and verification [such as the dogon tribe in Ethiopia talking about Sirius B's existence 'a binary star system'] which In 1844 German astronomer Friedrich Bessel deduced from changes in the proper motion of Sirius that it had an unseen companion. The AAB propose this is evidence they were given this information from people who already knew in advance from an external species with high level technology. I can not explain how they could have known about it, but it does not instantly mean the theory given by AAB is instantly given any value because of this. For instance how many other things do the dogon tribe talk about that are not true which they have not cherry picked to tell us ?

Now there is indication that certain monolithic structures pre date the last ice age, or marked its ending which interests me a lot, and there is also the notion that working with stone like granite and diorite in technical ways was achieved which causes many scholars to question the level of technical achievement and intelligence of the cultures themselves. Being that we ourselves find it difficult to do now, but that is more likely attributable to the fact we have had no need to maintain those skill sets and problem solving techniques, since there is no need to make huge buildings or use stones that are difficult to work with. We have evolved our technologies to utilise much simpler methods to increase output. It seems the reason they could do it better than us was simply because it was part of the problem society was focused on at the time, IE making big stone buildings to impress, somehow they figured ingenious ways to do it that we don’t pay much attention to doing ourselves.

Assigning this to intervention and alien technology not only demeans the level of intelligence and problem solving abilities our ancestors had, but it also means that the aliens were responsible for making buildings that were shrines to themselves which seems like a pretty odd thing to do for a supposedly evolved intelligent species. Seeing as most of these large buildings are temples or similar structures in honour to gods, and AAB types claim ET's are misinterpreted gods.

Then finally we get back to another thing I find problematic, for all the time this intervention would take we are led to believe that over the hundreds if not thousands of years it would have taken these aliens didn’t have a single shred of technological cast offs, nothing malfunctioned and was discarded for us to find here on Earth. Not a single tool was left behind, not a single piece of technology, not a single building they lived in or utilised with their super technology is around to be seen.

@Sky,

Yes, I've talked about this before, the person making the claim (or the one who made it up) is Giorgio A. Tsoukalos, he claims that in the King's Chamber, there wasn't enough oxygen to light his lighter, therefore torches couldn't have been used. As I point out to people who bring this up: if there wasn't enough oxygen to light a simple flame from a lighter, how was he and his friends not suffocating? This is a case of just blatantly lying.

lol, funny, a while back in my notes for his eventual page I put:

"Giorgio A. Tsoukalos is like Peter Joseph and Michael Tsarion combined, but with Jeff Rense's sense of hair style."

The way he speaks is also similar to Peter Joseph, from upon a horse so high it makes Colossus look up.

the show you guys watched is the pre series episode, yes i watched that as well, and tsoukakkis definitely lies, and daniken lies too.
Early on in the show daniken makes out like he only speculated, and scholars were picking on him unjustly, where he then proceeded to point out all the question marks in his book. Later on in the show hes at palenque talking about the funerary coffin of a chief there where theres a plaque with artwork on it. Daniken proceeds to interpret the artwork as a guy in a rocketship/chair and says "this is definitely proof of extra terrestrials" not a question mark in sight.

Anyways tsucackie said in the show "i would be out of a job in india because they already believe in ancient asdtronauts", the guys just a story spinner for money. You can tell hes not trustworthy.