Skeptic Project

Well recently I have been hanging about in a forum for alien abductees, it seemed like a fun past time to check out and observe. Being that UFO’s are interesting subject matter, though I don’t believe in them being alien driven space ships from outerspace.i tend to think there’s more mundane and rational reasons for their existence, and yes before you knee jerk I have seen a couple myself and can’t explain them away as just swamp gas or weather balloons.
I do though not believe in alien abductions or for that matter believe aliens are visiting this planet in their mother ships and transport drones.
So yes this website I have been visiting has a forum and a chat room, where you can get involved and post about whatever topics you want to in relation to the topics. I of course went in there and made a few posts about conspiracy theorists and how their claims were fabricated, and explained with evidence and examples. The rationale given back were the typical memes and tropes of those familiar with the paranoia conspiracy theorists exhibit. The usual diatribe of people opposing their worldviews as being paid informers, government party line towers, sheeple, liars, ignorant fools, unresearched idiots etc.. those of you who combat conspiratorial mindsets on a daily basis will know the typical regurgitation you have to absorb about your point of view on the matter.
I decided to hang around there for quite some time making a few new friends who were reasonable folk, well-meaning people though somewhat deluded and perhaps even a little weird. Also some highly educated and rational folks who refused to believe the insanity of the topic and prefered to have cold hard facts and evidence to back it up, though these people sadly were few and far between on there.
The owner of the website a guy called Matt, who lives in Colorado in the USA, goes under the name of Alien Photog. He is a 29-year-old almost 30-year-old man married to an older woman who claims to be in contact with aliens on a regular basis and believes himself to be some kind of prophet who knows everything about the world and the future and past of human kind. Sadly this could not be further from the truth, he has recently taken to making claims his grandfather started up the whole bohemian grove area for the illuminati. With claims his great-grandfather, grandfather and other family members were all friends of the presidents and were all high level freemasons who were committing evil plans to rule the world with sex slaves and satanic worshipping.
Of course this to anyone with a rational mind would require a vast amount of evidence but this does not really matter much to him and his followers, who lap up every word he says on his forum, radio show and you tube channel.
Recently I decided to confront some of the more bizarre claims he was making about the eye of Horus, freemasonry and conspiratorial beliefs and he went about calling me and others who agreed with my point of view liars, uneducated, and the usual tropes. One of the members a guy called Brent private messaged me after the interchange with the owner and I explained my stance on how I thought conspiratorial thinking was dangerous and ill minded. Suddenly I found myself banned from the forum, weirdly enough I had not broken a single rule of the pace, I was totally polite and honest about my opinions, nothing was an insult towards any specific person in general so it was not like I was being hostile towards anyone.
It turned out the reason I was banned and had everything I had ever posted there removed , and we are talking months of in-depth and well explained detailed posts proving their claims to be false and unfound in any reality, was because I had said something to someone in a private conversation about something they did not like.
So in essence they have gone through a private conversation with someone and then used that as grounds to delete every post I ever made and remove me from their forum. interestingly enough this member is posing as a skeptic to conspiratorial thinking on the forum, so if he is sharking people then this shows just how paranoid and how large liars they are. To be this deceitful and invade another’s privacy beggars belief. For someone who claims to be trying to benefit humanity whilst spewing fear and death prophecies of the illuminati, whilst subversively infiltrating people’s private discussions and rooting out those who would disagree with his paranoia seems unethical and totally dishonest.
This website is here: http://ufozone.ning.com/<br /> His you tube is here: http://www.youtube.com/user/alienphotog<br /> I will discuss more in-depth about specific points about this place later on in other blogs, as it has now become another place filled with fantasy, lies and conspiratorial bullshit I want to expose.

http://anticultist.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/alien-abductees-and-conspiracy-theorists/</p>

Forgot to mention this guy claims hes an alien hybrid as well.
He makes so many claims its hard to keep up with what reality he actually lives in, but one thing is for certain..hes a conspiracy theorists, believes himself to be an alien abductee/alien hybrid, believes hes the spawn of freemasonry and satanic worship, and finally a bohemian grove CT believer.

Thanks...I can not believe the mind numbing claims I have endured over the past few months over there in the hope I would get through to some of them. Sadly the majority of them are potentially insane, I did manage to bring a few of the younger guys round , ones who had not yet formed their world view, thanks to mine and a few of the other skeptics efforts we have made at least 3 young guys become more critical thinking and skeptical about matters.

But this place is honestly the mothership of alien claims on the internet, there are literally about a hundred alien abductee/ alien hybrid conspiracy theorists there who post and chat all the time.

A recent update to this post.. Someone posted a debunking of bohemian Grove on their forum that came from here..the owner deleted it and threatened to ban the member permanently if he ever posted anything from conspiracy science as apparently the owner of this site is I quote 'the owner of this site has been making lots of efforts to hurt our community. Just found out in the last few days and our new policy is to delete any links to this site and warn the member who posted it that they are not allowed, nor is talk of the whole deal"

Oh dear. It looks like freedom of speech and discussion of anything that has been freely posted on the internet is considered out of bounds over there now.

I've even heard rumours of him thnking about legal action against people who have discussed things he has freely and openly said about himself to other people on the internet.

Quote taken from his own post.
"I'm sorry that I can not elaborate on this at this point. It's an issue I've been advised to not speak about in a public manner as both civil and criminal charges are being considered at this point. I hope you all understand. We will be deleting any posts that come up about the issue. "

Anyone reminded of Peter Merola here ?

He freely gave away his name and his age to members of the group, he freely gave away his location of living to members on the forum there, so anything posted about him that he has said is nothing but someone reposting information he has freely given away to other people online.
If this information was surreptitiously taken without his consent and put online it would be criminal, but he openly gave away his information to the members of the group as has his wife.

How is this illegal then ?

The post was not meant to be an expose of him personally anyway it was made to point out the hypocrisy and fallaciousness of the website, the claims made by him and other such bizarre beliefs.

With this in mind I have taken it upon myself to remove his name from the original article as the post is not even about his personal details, it is about his claims and only that. And I dont wish him any personal harm.

Here are html downloads of his claims about bohemian grove, his opening statement and claims are as follows:

My Grandfathers That Founded “Bohemian Grove” … Decided I’m Ready To Talk About It Some

* Posted by Alien Photog™ on January 30, 2011 at 3:28pm in Conspiracy
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Alright, This is something i’ve been quite secretive about since I found out. I decided I’m ready to start talking about it some. So … I’ve got this one in the “Not Sure If Anyone Gives A Shit” File for now … i really don’t know if people will be interested in this.

Before I begin, I want to let you all know the reasons I’ve not yet talked about this.

1. Paranoia of being known publicly. That said, it is what it is and I am who I am. I highly doubt it’ll lead to my identity being discovered. If it does, it does.

2. Shame - As we go along I'm sure you will all start to understand.

I'll start with some basic info ... feel free to ask questions if you want. I know a lot about it.

Tags: Alex, Alien, Bohemian, California, Freemasonry, Grandfathers, Grandpa, Grove, Illuminati, Jones

As can be seen evidenced here: http://www.4shared.com/document/9TwGggmA/my-grandfathers-that-founded1.html</p>

All the subsequent conversation points and claims of his family ties to conspiracy theories and mentions of satanic ritual abuse, and brothels etc can be seen on the following links:

http://www.4shared.com/document/I8jr6siN/my-grandfathers-that-founded2.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/7ddslHyl/my-grandfathers-that-founded3.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/J2ReylLU/my-grandfathers-that-founded4.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/857dz_0U/my-grandfathers-that-founded5.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/kMwseMOz/my-grandfathers-that-founded7.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/b_EAmKQ7/my-grandfathers-that-founded8.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/33iVRYFJ/my-grandfathers-that-founded9.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/cTv45fYw/my-grandfathers-that-founded10.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/1MiMOMTI/my-grandfathers-that-founded11.html</p>

http://www.4shared.com/document/TlnXTtWZ/my-grandfathers-that-founded12.html</p>

Notice how he publicly and openly gives away information that could lead to identifying him online and then categorically states if he is found out from the information, he does not mind as he has decided to talk about it. This is a self admission and public disclosure of his own doing, and is not an invasion of privacy by anyone else but himself doing it.

Thanks Matt, yeah it irks me when people like him put their shit out into the public realm, accept that they may be uncovered by doing so and then after they have given information freely away they then try and blame and insinuate that another person is responsible for their well being in the world !!

you are right I am not doing anything wrong, but I will keep it on topic, this guy is clearly bazonkers when it comes to conspiratorial beliefs and its this I feel needs pointing out mostly.

His claims about the bohemian grove, satanic rituals, sexual abuse, alien hybrids/ancient alien beliefs are quite literally barking mad from the perspective of a rational and sane person and lacking any evidence at all.